WebPlus X4: publishing webplus instead of frontpage

[vskc-Mac]

Hi,
I have a website produced using MSFrontpage but it didn't work on all computers so I purchased Serif WebPlus x4 to re-make the website. Can anyone tell me how to upload the webplus site to replace the frontpage one? Do I have to delete the original site or can I just upload the new one?

[mjh]

Hi and welcome to the Serif forums.

Use WebPlus' ftp and set up Account Details, being mindful of entering the correct folder name in the folder field as specified by your host. Then, tick the option to delete unused file as you are uploading and WebPlus will take care of it for you.

[Dond]

Hi

If I was you I would delete the old site completely before uploading the WP site.

[mjh]

Originally Posted by Dond Hi If I was you I would delete the old site completely before uploading the WP site.

In order to do that, go to File > Publish Site > Maintain Site > find the correct folder with your current site and CAREFULLY select the files and delete them.

[vskc-Mac]

Thanks MJH I'll give that a try.

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac I have a website produced using MSFrontpage but it didn't work on all computers

FrontPage is/was closely tied to Internet Explorer. Micro$oft added some features to FrontPage that would work only with IE. A lot of computers don't have IE.

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac so I purchased Serif WebPlus x4 to re-make the website.

Good decision!

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac Can anyone tell me how to upload the webplus site

WebPlus uses "publish to web" to convert your WebPlus project (the .wpp file) into a actual set of web pages, then FTP upload the pages and other files to your web host. WebPlus automatically constructs the proper hyperlinks to the appropriate files, and automatically puts everything into the appropriate folders. Using WebPlus' uploader is the best way to upload your site.

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac to replace the frontpage one? Do I have to delete the original site

No, you do not have to delete the original site, but it is probably a good idea. If any of your original web site has/had files with the same file name as the WebPlus files, then the newer WebPlus files will overwrite/delete your existing FrontPage files of the same name, which means that your FrontPage site will be "broken".

Note that if your original site has been online for more than just a short time, then chances are good that the search engines have indexed your site's pages, and your site visitors might have added some of your pages to their favorites/bookmarks. Those links and bookmarks all point to pages in your old site. If you have first removed your old site then all those links will now point to a nonexistant page, and your visitors will get a 404 not found error.

Either set up a redirect on your web host, or make sure that your new WebPlus pages have the same file name and are located in the same directory/folder on your web host.

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac or can I just upload the new one?

Yeah, you can do that, too.

[vskc-Mac]

Hi I have published my websit using X4 and it seemed to do everything loading all files etc. But my old Frontpage web site is still the one that opens on IE. Can anyone tell me how to delete the frontpage site from the web?

Thanks

[mjh]

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac Hi I have published my websit using X4 and it seemed to do everything loading all files etc. But my old Frontpage web site is still the one that opens on IE. Can anyone tell me how to delete the frontpage site from the web? Thanks

Hi

I suspect you uploaded into the wrong folder on your host. Go to the Account Details dialog and double check the entry into the folder field.

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by mjh I suspect you uploaded into the wrong folder on your host. Go to the Account Details dialog and double check the entry into the folder field.

Another possibility is that the WebPlus site uses index.html and the FP site uses index.htm (no L) and the web server is set to look for and serve an index.htm (no L) page before looking for and serving an index.html page.

Maybe.

[mjh]

Originally Posted by Jim B. Another possibility is that the WebPlus site uses index.html and the FP site uses index.htm (no L) and the web server is set to look for and serve an index.htm (no L) page before looking for and serving an index.html page. Maybe.

Earlier in this thread, he was given a method to delete the old site from the host.

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac But my old Frontpage web site is still the one that opens on IE.

Originally Posted by mjh Earlier in this thread, he was given a method to delete the old site from the host.

Well, if the old FP site still opens, then maybe he didn't delete the old site?

Or maybe he is seeing the old site from IE's cache memory?

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by vskc-Mac But my old Frontpage web site is still the one that opens on IE.

When you use some web browser other than IE (such as Firefox or Opera or Safari) what do you get:

• your old site
• your new site
• arrested by the web site police
• other

[t8xt]

Hi vskc-Mac,

Great to see your trying WebPlus! Sometimes Frontpage would name the first page in the website home.html, WebPlus uses index.html by default for the first page in your website that people will see first when they go to your website.

Check your website directory using the above method for maintaining your website as described by "MJH" and delete any files you see that look like these then upload your website again.

home.htm
home.html
index.htm
index.php

Another thing to consider is the directory the site is being published to. On occasion you may need to specify the path to your public_html directory where the website is housed, this will look something like this in your WebPlus ftp settings, this setting also depends how your web hosting service is set up, the directory could also be named htdocs or something similar.

Folder: public_html/

Also when you go to your website try pressing Ctrl + r to reload the cache in the browser, you may have to do this a couple times to get a complete refresh. If the browser is stubborn you can delete the cache manually, the settings to do this cache clearing is found under the Tools > Internet Options in Internet Explorer and Tools > Options in Firefox, you'll be looking for the button to delete browser history.


Cheers

[icatkh]

Need Help! Yahoo has informed me that they will no longer support Front page. My web site is written in FP, How can I convert my whole site to WEBX4 and keep its look and listing with the search engines. I only have till Sept 12 to do this.

[mjh]

Originally Posted by icatkh Need Help! Yahoo has informed me that they will no longer support Front page. My web site is written in FP, How can I convert my whole site to WEBX4 and keep its look and listing with the search engines. I only have till Sept 12 to do this.

Hi

How about a link to the existing site?

Are you really wed to yahoo as a host? If so, why?

To keeps it's search engines rankings, maintain the same HTML filenames.

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by icatkh Need Help! Yahoo has informed me that they will no longer support Front page. My web site is written in FP, How can I convert my whole site to WEBX4 and keep its look and listing with the search engines. I only have till Sept 12 to do this.

You can "open/import" your web site into WebPlus, with some degree of success. WebPlus will try to read all the pages, examine the content, then create new pages with that content in that page layout and with that navigation system, etc. But you will probably have to do some cleanup work to make the imported site look like your current site.

And, to keep your Google search results and links, your site visitor's favorites/bookmarks, and all links from other web sites, you will have to make sure that you make the pages' file name in WebPlus the same name as your current site, and you will have to recreate the current folder names and structure, with each file in the appropriate folder.

[icatkh]

Sounds like i have a lot of work to do. Yes I am using Yahoo to host my site, it was easy and handy when I needed it. If I understand this information right I will need to save my original site somewhere (on external HD) so I can be sure to match up files and names to keep things working on line with the search engines. I am going to try to import the whole site to WEB X 4

[icatkh]

http://icatkch.com

[mjh]

Originally Posted by icatkh Sounds like i have a lot of work to do. Yes I am using Yahoo to host my site, it was easy and handy when I needed it. If I understand this information right I will need to save my original site somewhere (on external HD) so I can be sure to match up files and names to keep things working on line with the search engines. I am going to try to import the whole site to WEB X 4

I would useFile > Publish Site > Maintain Site to access the host and download all the FrontPage files into a separate folder on your computer as well as importing it into WebPlus X4.

This might be a good time of considering a site design makeover, perhaps using one of the templates.

[icatkh]

If I redesign how do i keep the search engine listing? Just name each redone page with the same name?