WebpluX2, blank space at bottom of page

[aerialsandtv.com]

This question has probably been asked before but in the time I spent using the "Search Forums" I couldn`t find the answer.
I`ve just started using Webplus X2 over Webplus 10.
I`ve been using Webplus10 since it came out (even though I`ve got X2) because X2 had a few bugs in it when I first tried it, one, which I`d forgotten about, was that it was not automatically shortening the pages like Webplus10 used to do.
I`ve now got 90 odd pages loaded onto the internet most of which have loads of blank space at the bottom !
What do I have to do to get X2 to automatically shorten the page ? And do I have to do a complete site upload (which takes ages.....) to rectify it ?

[mjh]

Shorten the MP to just the size needed to include necessary objects. For those that belong on the footer > Attach to Bottom.

CAUTION: this may shorten all associated pages. Try using the Site Manager and un-associate pages from MP, then change the MP and re-associate. I do not know that this will work.

[Archibald]

Originally Posted by mjh Shorten the MP to just the size needed to include necessary objects.

Yes, it's currently 9750 pixels.

[mjh]

Originally Posted by Archibald Yes, it's currently 9750 pixels.

Most of mine are about 400 pix.

[aerialsandtv.com]

Are you saying I`ve got to go through every page manually shortening it ?
If so I think that`s a bit of a regression fom Webplu10....

[mjh]

Originally Posted by aerialsandtv.com Are you saying I`ve got to go through every page manually shortening it ? If so I think that`s a bit of a regression fom Webplu10....

No, I'm saying it may.

No, I do not think it's a regression, it's a change.

[nfc212]

It is easier to do it via Site Manager>Page Properties.

[mjh]

Originally Posted by nfc212 It is easier to do it via Site Manager>Page Properties.

Yup. I would try it on a backup copy of the wpp file.

[aerialsandtv.com]

Originally Posted by mjh No, I'm saying it may. No, I do not think it's a regression, it's a change.

I agree with always trying to be positive, but this reminds me of my ex-boss who used to come back from management training courses saying things like
"we don`t have problems, we have opportunities" !
What I used to say isn`t printable.
It`s really no surprise I went off to work for myself.....

I don`t see how having to manually shorten every page can be regarded as anything but a regression. In fact I don`t understand why they`ve done it.

[aerialsandtv.com]

I must confess to a bit of shock here....
I`ve just tried phoning Serif technical support to confirm that X2 will not automatically truncate the page, and I was told they wouldn`t help me because it isn`t the current version.
I`ve only just started using X2 partly because it had bugs in it when it first came out, and one was it wouldn`t automatically truncate the page like Webplus10 would. It was hinted to me at the time that this was a bug and I`d hoped one of the patches would have sorted it, but they won`t talk to me to confirm this or not....
Disgraceful.
Does anyone know if the X4 version automatically truncates the page ?

[mjh]

WP X2 was released in Feb 2080.... two years ago. X4 handles MP differently but haven't tested it for your particular issue.

[Ne55y]

Originally Posted by mjh WP X2 was released in Feb 2080....

Marilyn getting ahead of hrself again

[mjh]

Originally Posted by Ne55y Marilyn getting ahead of hrself again

Ooops, not fully caffeinated yet.

Good spot, thanks Ne55y

That should be 2008.

[Jeffers]

Originally Posted by aerialsandtv.com This question has probably been asked before but in the time I spent using the "Search Forums" I couldn`t find the answer. I`ve just started using Webplus X2 over Webplus 10. I`ve been using Webplus10 since it came out (even though I`ve got X2) because X2 had a few bugs in it when I first tried it, one, which I`d forgotten about, was that it was not automatically shortening the pages like Webplus10 used to do. I`ve now got 90 odd pages loaded onto the internet most of which have loads of blank space at the bottom ! What do I have to do to get X2 to automatically shorten the page ? And do I have to do a complete site upload (which takes ages.....) to rectify it ?

I can understand your frustration and anger but I'm sure there must be an easy way, no doubt you've read this from the help file

As for Height, allow enough vertical distance to let you lay out the objects on your longest page. It's OK to allow more space than you expect to fill. As each individual page is published to the Web, WebPlus will truncate the page either at the specified Height setting or just below the bottom element on each page/master page, whichever is less. In other words, there's no danger of blank space below your bottom element—but don't let elements run outside the indicated page dimensions.

WebPlus lets you select one or more master page objects, and make them Attach to Bottom of Page (set in Arrange menu). This means that objects which should belong to the base of the page such as copyright information, bottom navbars, or navigation buttons will always show on the bottom of the web page irrespective of page height.

I can only say Ive made a master page say 400px high which holds all the elements with attatch to bottom of page the bottom element. I make the other pages of varying length from 500 - 1500px with the info on each page and when published the master page elements are at the top or bottom of the page. I assume if you make changes to the page properties then you have to upload these changes to the server for the changes to show.

Maybe I'm not understanding your problem but somebody here must be able to help. I hope so because just to throw in I've browsed your site many times and found it very helpful and informative in getting me to understand the best tv ariels to go for.

[aerialsandtv.com]

Originally Posted by Jeffers I can understand your frustration and anger but I'm sure there must be an easy way, no doubt you've read this from the help file [I]As for Height, allow enough vertical distance to let you lay out the objects on your longest page. It's OK to allow more space than you expect to fill. As each individual page is published to the Web, WebPlus will truncate the page either at the specified Height setting or just below the bottom element on each page/master page, whichever is less. In other words, there's no danger of blank space below your bottom element—but don't let elements run outside the indicated page dimensions.[/I] Maybe I'm not understanding your problem but somebody here must be able to help. I hope so because just to throw in I've browsed your site many times and found it very helpful and informative in getting me to understand the best tv ariels to go for.

I think you are understanding it.
As you pointed out above the programme ( WebplusX2 ) should be truncating the page and it isn`t.
I`ve got Webplus on my second PC and that does truncate it, the same site exactly in every respect !

[Waris]

Hi all,

The toolbar is right in the center of the page "Resize Pages"

[aerialsandtv.com]

Originally Posted by Waris Hi all, The toolbar is right in the center of the page "Resize Pages"

I thought you`d hit the jackpot there, but when I tried it all that does is enable you can manually readjust every page, of which they are 90 odd....
I had hoped it was an automatic thing, but, sadly, not.
However I do think it`s marginally quicker than going into page properties and altering the page height like that.

[mjh]

Originally Posted by aerialsandtv.com I thought you`d hit the jackpot there, but when I tried it all that does is enable you can manually readjust every page, of which they are 90 odd.... I had hoped it was an automatic thing, but, sadly, not. However I do think it`s marginally quicker than going into page properties and altering the page height like that.

I do not understand why you want to resize pages and not the Master Page.

[aerialsandtv.com]

Originally Posted by mjh I do not understand why you want to resize pages and not the Master Page.

With Webplus 10 you just set the default page size to some large number. You could then just keep adding to the page (without having to continously lengthen it) because the programme automatically cut off any unused blank space.
As you may have read in my thread on Anchor Listing, I only found out that Webplus X2 didn`t automatically truncate the page after I`d uploaded the entire site, which is a fairly lengthy operation......

[Jim B.]

Originally Posted by aerialsandtv.com With Webplus 10 you just set the default page size to some large number. You could then just keep adding to the page (without having to continously lengthen it) because the programme automatically cut off any unused blank space. As you may have read in my thread on Anchor Listing, I only found out that Webplus X2 didn`t automatically truncate the page after I`d uploaded the entire site, which is a fairly lengthy operation......

IIRC from memory (and I might not; so long ago, it's so fuzzy )...

In WP 10 you make the Master page as long as, or longer than, your longest associated regular page. The regular pages can be the same length, or shorter than, the associated Master page.

In WP X2, you make the Master pages only long enough to hold all the stuff that you want on the Master page. The regular pages can be the same length or longer, but not shorter than the associated paster page. For stuff that you want to be at the bottom of the regular pages, go to the associated Master page, RIGHT-click on the stuff that is to be attached to the bottom of the regular page(s), and click on "Attach to bottom".

Or not.