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Old 8th July 2007, 02:45 PM   #1
Alex Ford
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I thought I would post this here, mainly because the people on the KoolMoves Support Forum are useless.
Also I have had alot of help from you guys before and you know what your talking about.

Firstly I will get to the point.
On the program KoolMoves, I was wondering if anybody here knew how to creat a Simple Gallery pop-up.
Like the gallery on Serif WebPlus 10.

All I want is a Thumbnail Grid that Recycles the Popup window displaying the picture.


The reason I want this is because the winow on my website is too small for the pictures.

www.segra.co.uk > Projects > Gallery.

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Old 8th July 2007, 05:07 PM   #2
Alex Ford
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Anyone?
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Old 8th July 2007, 05:10 PM   #3
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Hiya Alex

Just 'cool your jets' to quote The Simpsons.... someone sooner or later will come along to help you with this. I

do not know KoolMoves well enough to help you.

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Old 8th July 2007, 09:57 PM   #4
Alex Ford
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Hi mjh

Its always nice to see another Simpsons fan, even if it is on forums.

I took the advice and "cool" my "jets" lol, ill keep checking every so often to see if anybody knows how.

Last time i had a problem with KoolMoves i posted it here and it was soon solved, so hopefully someone will know.

Alex
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Old 8th July 2007, 11:21 PM   #5
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Alex,

I'm a newbie at KM but I couldn't find anything in the help files that addresses your quest. However, why not use WP's Gallery option to create recycled pop-ups?

Mike
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Old 9th July 2007, 03:08 PM   #6
Alex Ford
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Mike

Yea its ok, thanks for trying anyway, and the reason i cant use WP's Gallery is because if you look at my site, it is all flash, i dont see anyway i can use it.

Unless you can import the gallery or something?

Alex
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Old 9th July 2007, 07:14 PM   #7
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On:7/9/2007 2:08:55 PM - Alex Ford wrote:
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if you look at my site, it is all flash
That is most unfortunate.

Many (most? all?) search engines can't index the contents of FLASH.

It requires that your site visitor have installed and enabled a FLASH player.

It forces your site visitor to wait for your FLASH production to download and display and play through to whatever part the visitor is interested in.

FLASH pages with autostart sound will drive away a number of the visitors to the site.

FLASH pages rarely seem to address the needs of the site visitor or support the purpose of the site but instead tend to reflect the designer's "Look what I can do with FLASH" attitude.

A "Skip FLASH" link tells the visitor that they can bypass the FLASH without missing anything important or relevant.

JMO. And of course, YMMV.

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Old 9th July 2007, 07:42 PM   #8
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Jim B.

"Look what I can do with FLASH" you have the wrong idea, I am just trying some new things, I prefer FLASH because you can make much more attractive websites.

And when i quote "if you look at my site, it is all flash" i was explaining why i cannot use the WP10 Gallery.

also who said i wanted to meet any needs of any visitors, and the whole purpose of the site is to say what i can do, as it is advertising my skills, and is only something to me to do in the mean time.

I still do not see why you did post this comment, as it has nothing to do with the topic.
I am trying to find some help with KoolMoves.

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Old 9th July 2007, 07:58 PM   #9
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On:09/07/2007 18:42:50 - Alex Ford wrote:
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if you look at my site, it is all flash
But it isn't all Flash it relies heavily on Flash, but your pages are WP-generated HTML pages. I don't see any reason why you can't put WP10 Photo Gallery objects on one or more of those pages.

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Old 9th July 2007, 08:08 PM   #10
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The website is All flash i just use WP to upload it, thats all.... everything else is flash its just a massive flash file inserted into the master page.

unless you know a way to import the wp gallery into the flash then it cant be done.
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Old 9th July 2007, 08:40 PM   #11
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Alex.
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unless you know a way to import the wp gallery into the flash then it cant be done.
Wanna Bet? I imported a KoolMoves Flash into a page. Put it on a MasterPage, though I'm not sure that is necessary. On the first page I put a photo Gallery over top the Flash. Previewed it but no luck, so I went back to the MP, edited the Flash and set the background to transparent.

That worked. The images are there and the popups work.

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Old 9th July 2007, 09:39 PM   #12
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On:7/9/2007 6:42:50 PM - Alex Ford wrote:
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I still do not see why you did post this comment, as it has nothing to do with the topic.
To list some reasons for both yourself and anyone else reading this thread as to why an "all FLASH" web site might not be a good idea.

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I prefer FLASH because you can make much more attractive websites.
And these sites often take (much) longer to load and display, and typically remove a lot, if not all control from the site visitor.

You might think that a FLASH web site is more attractive, but do your site visitors think that the annoyance of "all FLASH" is sufficiently offset by the "attractiveness"? Yeah, you said you don't care about the needs of your site visitors. What a great way to say what you can do as advertising for your skills.

IMO, there are basically two groups who seem to like "all FLASH" web sites. 1.) Web design companies that offer "cutting edge technology" and 2.) some people looking to obtain their first site. These first time buyers like FLASH because they like what they see. But they rarely give a thought as to why a visitor is coming to the site (typically to obtain information or to make a purchase-or-not decision) or to how their site visitors are going to react to the FLASH site.

An all FLASH site does have a place - a site that sells to kids (they like all that flashy blinky moving jumping song-and-dance color-changing animated stuff) or a site that is an entertainment service, like this one http://www.cher.com/ which I think was particularly well done and the FLASH design seems appropriate to the web site's purpose.

FWIW. JMO. YMMV. TIOLI. DWYW.

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Old 9th July 2007, 10:20 PM   #13
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On:7/9/2007 8:39:17 PM - Jim B. wrote:
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Yeah, you said you don't care about the needs of your site visitors. What a great way to say what you can do as advertising for your skills.
Come on, Jim. You gotta lighten up a bit....take a chill pill. You're the guy who had the text on your home page that said, essentially, 'don't waste my time by calling me unless you are my client...and you won't be my client if you are outside of my arbitrary mileage radius.'

I think you have to "live and let live, here". To each his own...know what I mean?



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Old 9th July 2007, 10:57 PM   #14
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Alex

For a start put your flash file onto your home page, forget about the master, of your WP file on page 2 make up your gallery and put a hyperlink to it from your flash.

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Old 9th July 2007, 11:09 PM   #15
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On:7/9/2007 9:20:26 PM - Lon in California wrote:
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Come on, Jim. You gotta lighten up a bit..
Yeah, you're right.

He is presumably trying to atrract paying clients to build his business.

The text on the home page of my/that particular site is trying to repell non-paying freeloaders, saving both their and my time. (I received two more telephone calls and an E-mail today. )

Somewhat similar to...

If you operated a walk-in store that sold bats (baseball and cricket) and you had a small but relatively steady stream of people coming in and asking for bats (the flying mammal), how long might it be before you put a sign near the entrance to your store that you did not have any Chiroptera, saving their and your time?

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Old 9th July 2007, 11:17 PM   #16
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On:7/9/2007 10:09:17 PM - Jim B. wrote:
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how long might it be before you put a sign near the entrance to your store that you did not have any Chiroptera, saving their and your time?
I'd probably say, "Good thing I didn't want any Chiropteras. Jim's out of them. Guess I'll just go on in and see if he has any of the Mexican Cave Bats".



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Old 9th July 2007, 11:35 PM   #17
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Alex,

Another solution is based on this one http://www.serif.com/forum/ViewThrea...#39;color:BLUE provided my Martin Taylor. I like it better than the photo gallery because it doesn't use a pop-up window at all, but mouseovers.

Pay no attention to my flash object - I decided not to use it for fear some visitors would not have Flash enabled. The wpp file is too large (450K) to attach but you can get it here. http://www.valleycat.net/Display ima...#39;color:BLUE

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Old 9th July 2007, 11:38 PM   #18
Alex
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Jim B

Thanks, also i'm getting posative feedback so im going to keep the site the way it is, unless i start to get some negative feedback then i will reconsider.

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