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Old 6th February 2007, 01:57 AM   #1
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Hey folks,

I'm looking toward getting into website creation one day, using none other than Webplus, of course. Can anyone point me to a good, free web-hosting service where I can put up sites just for practice?
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Old 6th February 2007, 02:03 AM   #2
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Hiya sixwheels

How much FREE space does your current ISP provide as part of your subscription?

I'm on AOL and have quite a bit of free space.

But, I also invested $15.00/year and got a url plus some web space.

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Old 6th February 2007, 02:05 AM   #3
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Perhaps your ISP already includes some on-line storage/hosting for you to use as a part of your "memberhisp" with them?

Otherwise, most so-called free hosting services will add adverts to your site, often by putting your site in a frameset, and the adverts in the "top" and/or a right-side frame.

Jim B. :> )

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If you're unschooled and willing to wait.
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Old 6th February 2007, 02:47 AM   #4
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I do use Comcast, and it seems that there is some webspace available to the account, but I'm not the main user, so I don't know whether that space is available to me. Besides, it seems very complicated. I need something simple for a simple mind. :-)
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Old 6th February 2007, 02:56 AM   #5
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Six wheels

Plunk down fifteen bucks and play in your own playground for a year. If you do not tell anyone you have your own url, others will probably not find it.

Here's where I go play www.register4less.com


And, remember, you can always come gack here for help.

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Old 6th February 2007, 04:39 PM   #6
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Thanks for the site referral, Marilyn. I was really hoping I wouldn't have to pay anything, but $15 bucks for a year isn't bad. Still, there must be some free web-hosting sites that are worthwhile...?
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Old 6th February 2007, 06:40 PM   #7
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www.atspace.com www.atspace.com offers free webhosting with 50Mb, and a free domain name such as "sixwheels.atspace.com". The downside is that there is a maximum size for individual files in your website (and I think that the maximum size is 100k). They say that they put "small banner links" on your website, but when I put a website there, I couldn't see these these links.

Heartinternet www.heartinternet.co.uk/freehosting also offers free hosting: "Any one can use it, no cost £0, 2500 MB Web Space & 1000 Mail Boxes". I don't think it includes a domain name, so you probably have to pay extra for that. I haven't tried this offer, so I don't know how "free" it really is, or if they add adverts.

But I expect either of these would suffice, if you just want somewhere to practise.


Michael.
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Old 6th February 2007, 09:07 PM   #8
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Hi Sixwheels

I'm also on the look out for affordable (free) web hosting. I just followed the link from MJH and it seems that Register 4 free do offer completely free hosting as well with no ads and 5MB web space (seems a tad small) but it could give you a starting platform and taking on more space as you need it.
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Old 7th February 2007, 12:27 AM   #9
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Andy,

You'd need an account with their ISP, but I've been very pleased with the UK ISP Freeola.com / Freeola.net / Getdotted.com

Uploading is only via the ISP rather than via the web but they provide reliable hosting on up to date Unix, with CGI, SSI, PHP and optional MySql. They can supply & host domain names.

Uploading is via normal FTP. Each ISP account provides POP3 email.

I do hope that they survive the current industry shake-out.
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Alternatively, if you are more interested in hosting files than building web-pages and you have a "business" name; the Microsoft Office Live Beta is still running in the UK.

This offers 30-day trials of several different services; web email and MS (IIS) web-space for longer. However, on their free service, web-pages have to be built & managed using their on-line software.

ps. It's very heartening to get emails from Bill G. and Steve B. but they're rather hard to follow: I tried to read today's from Bill G. (I thought that he had retired) but ended up just deleting it.

Richard
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Old 7th February 2007, 12:43 AM   #10
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Sixwheels,

If you don't mind their ads, Geocities at Yahoo provides free space. Presumably there are still other similar services from Tripos? and other firms?

However, if you don't update your Geocities pages often enough, the (ever helpful ) staff may well trash your Yahoo email account as well!
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These days, many site provide free space for videos and photos; some provide free space for blogs etc. It really depends upon what you really want to achieve.

Digital photo printing firms provide on-line space for photos:

Even my Community account with Opera (the web browser) provides 300MB of space.

Richard
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Old 7th February 2007, 12:48 AM   #11
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Richard S

I had three sites on Geocities (US) but abandoned them six years ago when Geocities changed their file upload policy for their free sites.

ONE file at a time! No ftp... I had been using WS_FTP.

But, they do (I think) still offer a free, easy to use template, which of course limits design.
mjh
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Old 7th February 2007, 12:52 AM   #12
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A little update: after digging deeper into Comcast's Personal Webspace, I've found that it wasn't as difficult as I had first deduced. Webplus, of course, makes uploading the quick site I created an absolute breeze. Comcast gives you 25mb per e-mail address associated with the account, so that should be enough to play around with. I even went ahead and got my Serif web objects account so that I could have a counter. ;-)

So far, so good. :-)
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Old 7th February 2007, 01:02 AM   #13
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Now, sixwheels, let's see you creation... how about a link to your site?

mjh
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Old 7th February 2007, 07:36 AM   #14
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Try http://www.tripod.lycos.com/

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Old 7th February 2007, 05:15 PM   #15
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Oh my, Marilyn, it's not anything even remotely viewable yet. I literally am just starting out doing this, so I don't know any of the tricks to creating a competent design. But, in the spirit of learning, I guess getting input is a healthy place to start.

Right now it's just a banner graphic, a nav-bar, and some text. Be gentle with me. ;-)

home.comcast.net/~fourwheels
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Old 7th February 2007, 06:25 PM   #16
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A hearty thank you to one and all who posted sites. I'm going to bookmark them all for possible future use. :-)
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Old 7th February 2007, 07:55 PM   #17
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Sixwheels,

&nbsp; >>> Right now it's just a banner graphic, a nav-bar, and some text <<<

Correction: Right now it's a banner graphic, a nav-bar, a photo montage with a huge file size, and some text!&nbsp; Have a look at this speed report http://www.websiteoptimization.com/s...t/~fourwheels/ which reveals that the photo montage is over 430&nbsp;KB; You'll probably reduce it to about a tenth of that size if you change it – via Web Export Options – from PNG to JPG format, even at the highest quality (lowest compression) setting.

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Old 8th February 2007, 12:19 AM   #18
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Hey Alfred,

I was just getting ready to ask the question about how to upload everything on the site as jpeg. I know how to do it for individual files, but that would take some time. So, is there an all-at-once method? :-)
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Old 8th February 2007, 12:23 AM   #19
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Sixwheels

Just do what Alfred suggests for starters...

"You'll probably reduce it to about a tenth of that size if you change it – via Web Export Options – from PNG to JPG format, even at the highest quality (lowest compression) setting."

Alfred

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Old 8th February 2007, 12:58 AM   #20
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Hmm, well, I've combined some graphics and set their export options to jpeg, including the montage image, and it doesn't seem to be making much difference with that testing site. :-/
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