Hi, I'm not very familiar with PagePlus but note they advise setting out for a screen resolution of 800x600 "since this is the most popular". It isn't of course, 1024x768 is used by about 70% of users. I was looking at a friends PagePlus web site and the layout is appalling at 1024x768. Looking at the source it uses absolute pixel positioning which of course is a disaster unless you write for different resolutions and sense the users resolution. Who would try that ? Is this inexperience by the user or is this how PagePlus works ?
>> I was looking at a friends PagePlus web site and the layout is appalling at 1024x768. <<
Er... what, specifically was "appalling"?
>> Looking at the source it uses absolute pixel positioning which of course is a disaster... <<
Why is absolute pixel positioning a disaster?
Seems to me that with absolute positioning, EVERYthing on the page would be positioned relative to (typically) the upper left corner of the screen, which means that every item or object would be exactly in the same position (so many pixels to the right and down from the upper-left corner) and have exactly the same size (so many pixels width and height) on any monitor size using any screen size setting. And this means that any design that you create, would look exactly the same on any monitor.
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with absolute positioning the page gets a smaller and smaller percentage of your screen the higher the screen resolution. to keep the same "view" you need relative positioning. you obviously haven't tried it.
Also everything has to be pixel absolute. i can only guess PagePlus doesn't warn about this.
Here's a link to a screen capture, i think you will find it appalling with all the overlaying elements.
You'll see the right-hand side is blank, the difference between 800 and 1024 pixels.
I have been to the site and it looks fine for me. The site looks so bad for you because I suspect you have large screen fonts and IE re-interprets the requests for one size font and displays with another. If your friend goes to File> "Site Properties" and ticks the force absolute text size. Next time he publishes you will see it as designed despite your large fonts setting.
As far as I can see this has nothing to do with screen size.
the actual site looks fine to me, using IE6, screen res 1280 x 1024. true there is white space, but that doesn't deter me, if a site is interesting I'll stay whatever the resolution, (apart from horizontal scroll bars)
Well thanks for all the suggestions but now I'm really worried. IE text size makes no difference. I've downloaded Opera and it looks the same using that.
The site in question is www.belpercelebration.com if you all are seeing this ok it must be my setup. I don't normally have any problems.
Do you have IE set to ignore font sizes specified on web pages (via the 'Accessibility...' button on the General tab when you go to 'Tools > Internet Options...')? Are you, as Patrick suggested, using Large Fonts in your display settings?
>>> I've downloaded Opera and it looks the same using that <<<
What browser did you use for your screenshot? I see something similar in Firefox if I increase the text size from the default, but I can't understand how "it looks the same" using Opera: unlike Firefox, which only zooms text, Opera zooms the whole page.
The website looks fine to me but, as Patrick suggested, when I changed my Display Settings to Large DPI I saw the same problem you reported. This setting can be found by right-clicking on your Desktop, choosing Properties, then Settings, then Advanced and it's on the General tab there.
You'll find that if you change this back to Normal Size (96 DPI) then the website looks fine.
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Well thankyou everyone, that seems to have tracked it down. I've found about three ways to change the font setting and indeed one of these was set to large. setting it to normal does solve the web page problem. However the problem is linked to screen resolution in as much as normal font setting is very small at increased screen resolution, on my machine at least, so i need it large.
The solution seems to be to force the font size from the web page. I've passed on the message.
Thanks once again.
Sorry, My bad, I meant higher resolution NOT large fonts. Internally we have called this the large fonts issue because of the way explorer gives you artificially large fonts when you increase screen resolution. I did not mean to confuse the issue, but clearly have, thanks Alfred..
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