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Old 24th September 2005, 12:36 AM   #1
Jim B.
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If you haven't noticed, do the following. At the top of the page, put your mouse pointer on "Products", and see PanoramaPlus in the dropdown list!

Now, click on PanoramaPlus to go to the PanoramaPlus 2 product page. This looks soooo slick! The page says it does X and Y axis stitching!

But no mention of whether it does "only" 360 cylindrical panos, or if it can do less than 360 (partial, or wide angle) panos. Or whether it is possible to nudge/tilt individual images for better alignment, or if it does color and brightness blending at the image edge/overlap, or if you can trim the top or bottom edges...

Edited/added: I just read the PAP 2 Product Manual, and it CAN do partial or full panos, it CAN tilt individual photos, and it CAN crop the top/bottom edges.

Anyway, it looks good enough that all I need now is the introductory offer E-mail from the mysterious Natasha, and PanoramaPlus 2 is mine, all mine! BWAHAHAHAHAHA! (But, I wonder what happened to PanoramaPlus 1?).

Jim B. :> )

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Old 24th September 2005, 01:13 AM   #2
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Jim,

Seeing your post immediately reminded me of your prescient thread http://www.serif.com/forum/ViewThrea...read=16624#top of a couple of months ago, where you said: "Hello, Serif. Would you make PanoramaPlus, please?"

What are you going to ask for next? 

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Old 24th September 2005, 01:30 AM   #3
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Er... um... yeah. Now that you mention it, I do seem to vaguely recall making that post. Thanks, Serif!!!

So, what am I going to ask for next? FLASHPlus, FormsPlus, and LOTTOWinnerPlus, I guess.

And if I had to choose just one of those...

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Old 24th September 2005, 02:00 AM   #4
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OK, so PanoramaPlus has arrived. What to call it?

There is already a PP, and a PhP (PhotoPlus) and a PaP (PopArtPlus).

Maybe... PrP for PanoRamaPlus?

Just wondering...

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Old 24th September 2005, 02:01 PM   #5
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Well, if you follow the precedent set by PhotoPlus (PhP) and MoviePlus (MvP) and use the second consonant in the name, you get PnP. Would that do?

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Old 24th September 2005, 11:54 PM   #6
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Jim,

I'm hopin AP+ is next.

Seriously, FormsPlus would be great. I would think it would have to be partially Wizard based, to handle the different types of servers. It could generate both the script needed to process the form as well as the form itself and could be used in conjunction with PP or WP.

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Old 25th September 2005, 01:12 AM   #7
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>> ...you get PnP. Would that do? <<

Hmmm. PnP. Hmmm.

Nawwww. Can't do PnP. Sounds waaaay to much like M$'s Plug and Pray technology.

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Old 25th September 2005, 01:23 AM   #8
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FormsPlus. Hmmm.

I'm thinking along the lines of an add-on or a plug-in to WP xx, or maybe even a stand alone program.

It would be similar to a DTP program, but in two parts.

Part one. It would have a list of all the various types of elements - submit and reset buttons, radio buttons, check boxes, combo boxes, multi-line boxes, drop down boxes, etc - similar to the quick shapes flyout. Then just click on the item you want, drop it on the page, drag it to where you want it, size it, name it, and assign any values.

Part two is choose some options, like send mail to form's owner and specify the address, send mail to form's submitter, validate some or all of the user's input, generate success or error page (SSI or redirect to a URL?) as appropriate upon submission of the form, enable the submitter to click on a button to upload a file, etc., choose whether you are on a Windows or Unix server, whether you want PhP or Perl output, then have FormsPlus generate the script to process the form's data, and attach the script to WP for auto uploading when the WP site/page is published.

PHEW! That's not too much to ask, is it? 8)

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Old 25th September 2005, 01:31 AM   #9
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Jim,

&nbsp; >>> Sounds waaaay to much like M$'s Plug and Pray technology <<<

I wonder why I'm not surprised by that reaction....

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Old 25th September 2005, 02:32 AM   #10
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Jim,

See, the difference between you and me is that you spell things out!

I concur - 100 percent.

But FP (oop's has MS copyrighted this?) should allow the files it creates to also be placed in PP or even - dare I type this - Front Page.

Soupermail is not completely unlike this, except it is PhP based. The help file gives explicit instructions on what lines to change to make the form work for your site - how to make fields required, allow attachments, a success or failure page, redirect, etc.

I wonder if Open Source programs can be incorporated into a For Sale program, of if Serif's programmers who have to write their own scripts?

Part one should not be real hard to accomplish, though I am not a programmer. There are several web sites that allow one to select a check box, radio button, text block, etc. and use it to build a form.

Part two would take some thinking, especially if security is considered. But it should be able to be done. I would bet the answer is in AP+.

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Old 25th September 2005, 03:12 AM   #11
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Jim,

FormsPlus sounds super! But I hope it's okay if I add a few things . . . since your messages here seem to be acted upon by Serif and mine aren't Maybe you'll include my wishes?????

Quask's FormArtist does do all of your Part One, but I can't automate sending a copy of what they filled in to the submitter. I have to add the question "Would you like a copy of this?" and then not only do I have to physically e-mail a copy of what I receive, but when designing a form, I have to label all the form's fields in such a way that a sender will understand their "copy."

Oh, how about the option to send the form's input to other e-mail addresses in addition to the owner?

Form designers should have the option of being able to provide "reset/clear" and "print" functions in addition to "send"; and for multipage forms, "next" and "previous."

Liz
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Old 25th September 2005, 10:25 PM   #12
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shame... PnP is what we went call it internally. PaP had gone (shame) with PopArtPlus.

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Old 25th September 2005, 11:46 PM   #13
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We'll probably end up calling it PanP or some such. Even if 'Pap' hadn't already been spoken for, it sounds either derogatory or too medical (or both).

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Old 25th September 2005, 11:57 PM   #14
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PanP works for me! 8)

But a four letter abbreviation for a Serif program? Oh, horrors. what a break from tradition!

Jim B. :> )

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Old 26th September 2005, 11:10 AM   #15
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Liz

>>> I have to label all the form's fields in such a way that a sender will understand their "copy." <<<

So it would be good to be able to define a message template, along the lines of a mailmerge document, including the fields as <tags> which would be replaced by the contents of the form. Then you could have whatever wording you wanted in the message to make the content more clear.

It's easy to do if you're coding your own PHP, so it should be possible to provide as a feature.

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Old 29th September 2005, 12:53 PM   #16
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We've looked into AP+ and the minimum system requirements haven't been invented yet... sorry.

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Gareth Morris
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