shrinking image after crop

Here's the problem. I open up a photo and crop it. As soon as I double click in the "crop box" to apply the crop the image shrinks about halfe size. I then have to go to the magnifing glass to enlarge it again. Also, whenever I rotate an image it does the same thing. Anyone have a clue as to what's going on. It's a pain to keep having to enlarge the image to a workable size. Looks to me like it should remain the same throughout these adjustments.

Eric

I have just checked in Photoplus the image shrinks most times, similarly when you rotate. However this does not happen if you maximise your image into the Photoplus window. Provided you adjust the picture size to fit the window cropping or rotating 180 degrees will not alter the image size, except for the amount cropped. If you rotate 90 degrees the image size will be reduced to fit photoplus window The amount of recduction will be show in the main window header.

Keith,

Just read your response to the "moving windows". Thanks but...

I know what Photo Plus is doing and how to work around all these issues but should Photo Plus be doing these things. This one is the oddest of all. Why would Serif want Photo Plus to reduce the image size after it is cropped?

Eric

Well, I still don' think that PhotoPlus should shrink the image after cropping. Anyone else feel this is right or wrong. If the image fits on the screen prior to cropping the image , then what would be the need to shrink the image afterwards? this is annoying.

Eric

It's par for the course. PhotoShop has always done this, as has every other imaging program I've ever used. I don't see how the coders could write anything that would have it display as the same size, unless you crop it in the exact ratio that the original is in. For example, if you crop a 4x6 image to 3x5, how could the same size be displayed?

Mike

Maybe I need to explain further...

I understand your point. Your saying you take an image that fills up say 50 percent of the work area and then you crop 25 percent of it off. I don't expect PhotoPlus to take the cropped image and make it the size of the uncropped image. But what I do think is that Photo Plus should take an image that fills up 50 percent of the screen work space, crp 25 percent of it off and then apply the cropping to the pic and the pic then shrink to fill only 25 percent of the work space. I hope you get where I'm going. If i'm looking at a picture on the screen that let's say is a 3x5 inch picture and I crop about an inch off all the way around the pic then when I apply the pic I feel that what I should be left with is a pic that is visibly one inch smaller all the way around but Photo Plus doesn't do it. The image your left with is much smaller than the amount that has been cropped.

Still left out in all this is why is it that when you go to Format+ImageSize+Clockwise+90Degrees and the O.K. does the image then shrink again.

I just can't believe it should work like that.

Eric

Still waiting for a proper response to my question. Why is the image size reduced after cropping and/or rotating an image?

Eric

Still no one from Serif has responded to my original question of this thread. Would really like to know why PhotoPlus keeps shrinking the image after rotating and cropping the image.

Eric

Was working with Photo Plus all day last Friday. A great program. Did everything I wanted it to but one thing. No matter how zoomed in or out you are to the photo, whenever you crop or rotate the image it always zooms down to a lower level about five notches which forces you to always have to zoom back in to the image to work with it.

When are you guys at Serif going to ever acknowledge this as a problem. I can't believe that photoPlus should be doing this.

Was working with Photo Plus all day last Friday. A great program. Did everything I wanted it to but one thing. No matter how zoomed in or out you are to the photo, whenever you crop or rotate the image it always zooms down to a lower level about five notches which forces you to always have to zoom back in to the image to work with it.

When are you guys at Serif going to ever acknowledge this as a problem. I can't believe that photoPlus should be doing this.

Eric,

I agree with you on the image shrink issue. I opened a horizontal image and did nothing but rotate it to vertical and it shrunk it down considerably. I don't agree that other programs all do this either. My software doesn't. If I start with an image that is horizontal and full screen, on rotation, it remains full screen. Now, this does mean SOME shrinkage because of the aspect ratio of the screen and the image, but the bottom line is that both before and after rotation, the image is as large as it can be and still see all of the image.

I have found this problem too. No excuses for this it doesn't happen in micrografx picture publisher 7 which i got free. I've gone back to this as it's faster too and I can open more if the large images I use at the same time. Sorry Serif I mostly like your products.

Thanks for the response, glad to see i'm not the only goof out there. I really want to like this program but... Where is Serif at on this issue. I believe it's a bug in the program and where is anyone from Serif at to acknowlege it? Just admitting it would mean alot to me. Heck, just getting a response from them would be awesome. Like yourself, I've tried other programs and cropped images and rotated them and have NEVER seen anything like this before.

Wating on a response from SERIF. Come on guys, let's talk about this.

Eric

Just posting this to keep the message at the top of the thread. Still waiting for Serif to acknowledge the problem in Photo Plus.

Eric,

You're not a lawyer, by any chance?

Geoff

Geoff,

Nope, but having fun. You have answered my questions many times on this fourm. I guess that's what's puzzling to me here. I love your products. I have been using PP since version 4. I just got 3DPlus this past Monday. Now that I've kissed up, what keeps you from answering this thread with an appropriate answer?

Can't you admit that this is a flaw in PhotoPlus and be done with it? Of course if you did I would probably keep posting a message until you fixed it.

Eric

Eric,

Sure, I can admit that this is a flaw in PhP, but I am not Serif. My only connection is as a satisfied customer.

I'm pretty sure, however, that Serif are well aware of this particular quirk of PhP, and I hope they remedy it in PhP8, if not earlier. I just can't see what difference it will make if someone from Serif actually posts a message here agreeing that what happens does happen! I'm sure that nobody at Serif would argue that this behaviour is desirable and deliberately intended!

Geoff

Agreed, but lets hope its "earlier", rather than in a new chargeable version. I'm not that happy with the prospect of having to pay for a new version (even the usually reasonable upgrade fee), to sort out something that should have been right in the first place.

>>I'm sure that nobody at Serif would argue that this behaviour is desirable and deliberately intended!<<

Ah, the famous "undocumented feature".......

'Tis a pain, though - together with the "Export at 150dpi only" feature 8)

John

Geoff,

WOW! You admit this is not right. What was my first posting date? HEHEHE. It's just that Serif web site never changes. You would think that things like this would be being addressed at some point by them. Just ignoring the fact doesn't make people like me accept that it's there. You can bet that better research at this forum will take place before I purchase further Serif products. Although I have generally been happy with them all. This problem is just overly agnoying.

Eric