WebPlus X5: Anyone willing to make my site work in X5

[teachtopia]

Dear Serif Community,

Question regarding Versions X4 and X5

First of all, I have read quite a lot on the forums about bloated sites. And I have a lot of my resources not embedded. None-the-less I am having problems with X5 in that it crashes with this particular .wpp file

The site works perfectly (a little slow on the load) in X4 but does not work in X5. X5 actually crashes and restarts. And please note that X5 works for other sites.

Here is the site uploaded in X4 and working:
http://LAwithKids.com

here is the file
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/148985528...000000&s=19104


Thanks,

[Ali]

Originally Posted by teachtopia Dear Serif Community, Question regarding Versions X4 and X5 First of all, I have read quite a lot on the forums about bloated sites. And I have a lot of my resources not embedded. None-the-less I am having problems with X5 in that it crashes with this particular .wpp file The site works perfectly (a little slow on the load) in X4 but does not work in X5. X5 actually crashes and restarts. And please note that X5 works for other sites. Here is the site uploaded in X4 and working: http://lawithkids.com Thanks,

I don't think the published site will be much use to us. It's the .wpp file that we'll need to see.

[Tim]

You have a few problems there.

The Schools link on the Nav Bar only works on the lawithkids page and the Videos page. On all other pages it is dead.

Also you have some very long pages of empty space, especially on the Videos page.

Also here: http://lawithkids.com/free-restaurant-nights.html
I have just notices that on this page you have a horizontal scroll bar as well, the page is VERY WIDE. My guess is you have some text or graphics sat in the workspace (Off the page) that you have missed.

[teachtopia]

Thanks Ali,

How do I share it? The uploader says that the file is too large.

[mjh]

Originally Posted by teachtopia Thanks Ali, How do I share it? The uploader says that the file is too large.

Hi

If the file is under 50MB use the free yousendit.com, use your own email address for the to: and then post the link here.

[teachtopia]

Here is the file and super thanks
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/148985528...000000&s=19104

[teachtopia]

I just shared the file using yousendit. Great service.

[teachtopia]

Originally Posted by Tim You have a few problems there. The Schools link on the Nav Bar only works on the lawithkids page and the Videos page. On all other pages it is dead. Also you have some very long pages of empty space, especially on the Videos page. Also here: http://lawithkids.com/free-restaurant-nights.html I have just notices that on this page you have a horizontal scroll bar as well, the page is VERY WIDE. My guess is you have some text or graphics sat in the workspace (Off the page) that you have missed.

Tim, Thanks for looking at the site. Please note that I now have the file up on the thread. I went to the page and found some elements on the workspace. It is still wide. Any suggestions?

[grovesie]

Originally Posted by teachtopia Here is the file and super thanks https://rcpt.yousendit.com/148985528...000000&s=19104

I downloaded your file last night and tried to have a quick look. I loaded it up in X4 and it took 15 minutes just to generate all the smart object previews for the Youtube videos

I ran the site checker (Quick Scan) and it found over 700 errors with objects overlapping (and other stuff). I then ran the Full Scan and after over 1500 errors and 20 minutes and still running, I turned the computer off and went to bed.

I would suggest you run the Site Checker in X4 yourself and fix most/all of the errors it finds - if it still crashes when loading into X5 after that, come back and we can have another look.

Best of luck,

Steve

[Tim]

Jodie

I have just downloaded your file and am looking at it now.....Thats a lot of pages!!!!!

Anyway as I said might be one of your problems, you do have lots of bits and pieces scattered all over the workspace. minimize the site down to 10% and you will see them.

You have one HTML fragment box which looks to be a Facebook widget sat on the workspace at 31,700 pixels.

You need to find all of these and delete them.

[Frank B.]

Hi Jodi,

As others have said, you do have a lot of pages. However, they are mostly text pages which shouldn't be a problem for an application such as web plus - in fact the app file size is quite small when compared to some sites I've seen.

There are a few problems with misplaced and some overlapping objects, but this can be easily sorted before importing into X5. One way to avoid this type of problem would be to use a strict grid layout, or even a table layout to ensure everything stays in position.

I've also noticed that your home page slider is squeezing the images which doesn't look too good. You can overcome that problem by cropping and sizing your slider images before importing them into the slider application - basically, you need to crop them to the actual dimensions of the slider.

On you video page, you may like to consider using a video lightbox to display your you tube video links (you can see an example HERE.) A video lightbox can make the page look a little more interesting and uses a surprisingly small amount of code.

One other thing I noticed is that some of the ads that get displayed are not always appropriate for a site such as yours (ladies online now-type ads!!!). It may be best to skip this type of advertising altogether (unless of course it earns you substantial revenue)

Anyway, those are my thoughts, for what they're worth, but I see no real reason why the site shouldn't open in X5, there is nothing too adverse to prevent it from opening.

Kind regards

Frank B.

[teachtopia]

Originally Posted by Frank B. Hi Jodi, As others have said, you do have a lot of pages. However, they are mostly text pages which shouldn't be a problem for an application such as web plus - in fact the app file size is quite small when compared to some sites I've seen. There are a few problems with misplaced and some overlapping objects, but this can be easily sorted before importing into X5. One way to avoid this type of problem would be to use a strict grid layout, or even a table layout to ensure everything stays in position. I've also noticed that your home page slider is squeezing the images which doesn't look too good. You can overcome that problem by cropping and sizing your slider images before importing them into the slider application - basically, you need to crop them to the actual dimensions of the slider. On you video page, you may like to consider using a video lightbox to display your you tube video links (you can see an example HERE.) A video lightbox can make the page look a little more interesting and uses a surprisingly small amount of code. One other thing I noticed is that some of the ads that get displayed are not always appropriate for a site such as yours (ladies online now-type ads!!!). It may be best to skip this type of advertising altogether (unless of course it earns you substantial revenue) Anyway, those are my thoughts, for what they're worth, but I see no real reason why the site shouldn't open in X5, there is nothing too adverse to prevent it from opening. Kind regards Frank B.

Dear Frank,

The ads are based on the user. They are generally relevant with most the ads being served to me being educational related given that I am in that field and those are the predominant sites that I visit. Interesting what you came up with :-) You probably clear your cookies and they are giving you run of the mill ads.



In respect to the slider images I am aware of my lousy job at cropping them. I used a web based service for photo editing and am going to power up the gimp and do it right. If you go to http://nevadawithkids.com you will see I have done this part right before.

Is there anyway you could go into my file (it is in the thread) and tell me why it is not booting up on webplus X5? Also is there a way I could get master pages that conform to standards that would simply be right for any page I create as opposed to have a master pages a and b with two exact sizes and having to fit everything into the corresponding header and footer sections?
Modern templates do not work the way I designed the site. You will understand and see if you go into the file. Thanks!

[teachtopia]

Originally Posted by Tim Jodie I have just downloaded your file and am looking at it now.....Thats a lot of pages!!!!! Anyway as I said might be one of your problems, you do have lots of bits and pieces scattered all over the workspace. minimize the site down to 10% and you will see them. You have one HTML fragment box which looks to be a Facebook widget sat on the workspace at 31,700 pixels. You need to find all of these and delete them.

Quick question: Workspaces are unique to each page right?
Is anything on the workspace viewable?

Do you know where that facebook widget is hiding?

Thanks Again!

[AlfredP]

Originally Posted by teachtopia Quick question: Workspaces are unique to each page right?

The pasteboard is common to all pages, as you'll quickly discover if you copy something to it and then move to another page.

The attached shows your Search Results page in WPX5. As you can see from the scrollbars, there's a lot more of the pasteboard than is visible in the screenshot. On the far right and bottom of the pasteboard there are orphaned HTML code fragments.

Alfred